| Topic | Reception | Next Step |
|---|---|---|
| Google Gemini Enablement | Invalidated — migrating to Microsoft | Pivot to model-agnostic |
| AI Training / CPE | Strong interest from both Brandon and Ellis | Send VOD access, draft survey |
| Data Retrieval / Agentic Layer | Intellectually interesting, but "not ready" | Park for 6-12 months |
| RFP/Proposal Automation | Ellis: "we've been having those conversations" but blocked on process | Keep warm, don't push |
| Survey Data Analysis | Emerged organically — "send you this data" | Await data share, then analyze |
Methodical. Won't commit without context. "I don't know the groups well enough to say which would be a good pilot." Prefers data-driven recommendations over intuition.
Real CIO, not a figurehead. Asked about Microsoft Graph comparison, SQL vs. unstructured data access, data governance/permissions, vendor lock-in trade-offs. Needs architecture-level answers.
"I always want to be incredibly transparent with our vendors." Genuinely open. Doesn't posture or BS. Will tell you when he's not ready. Respects time.
7 weeks in. Still wrapping his hands around priorities. Tax season blocks firm until April 15+. Google→Microsoft migration creates moving target. Multiple competing internal initiatives.
"The worst kept secret technologically at M&J... we are entertaining moving from our Google G Suite to Microsoft... massive platform ecosystem shift." — Benjamin Ellis, CIO
"The only thing clear to me is we need to train our people on how to think about AI. Beyond that, we have to start building, we have to start transforming. But I don't know what to build." — Brandon Smith, Champion
"I have really good stats of how many FTEs we're wasting on manual processes... but it's like, step one collect underpants, step two, step three profit. What is my step two?" — Brandon Smith
"Every time we do an AI training and give concrete examples of here's a problem and here's how we solve it, we see it in our usage metrics. Our AI usage just jumps way, way up." — Benjamin Ellis
"On the back end and the business end, we're actually not ready for that yet... We need to be kind of... we're not ready, if I can be blunt." — Benjamin Ellis, on RFP/Proposal tool readiness
"I actually have a role posted for a Director of Data, AI, and Integrations." — Benjamin Ellis
| Action | Owner | Timeline | Status |
|---|---|---|---|
| Send AI course VOD access (coupon code) to Brandon + Benjamin | Skip | This week | Pending |
| Draft 5-6 question enablement survey | Skip + Jonathan | Before April 15 | Pending |
| Review existing survey data internally | Brandon + Benjamin | When available | Awaiting |
| Research Microsoft Teams agent patterns | Jonathan | Before next call | Pending |
| Research CPE documentation requirements | Jonathan | Before next call | Pending |
| Schedule reconnection call | Brandon (coordinate) | Late April / early May | TBD |
| Component | Current | Future |
|---|---|---|
| Collaboration | Google Workspace | Microsoft 365 |
| Gmail | Outlook | |
| Chat / Video | Google Meet | Microsoft Teams |
| LLM | Gemini Enterprise | Copilot (assumed) |
| Intranet | Google Pages | SharePoint |
| Data Warehouse | Domo + Snowflake | Domo + Snowflake (retained) |
| Conference Rooms | "Owl" devices | Full Teams AV (1+ year) |