M&J × noboxAI — Post-Discovery Positioning

Strategic pivot after CIO introduction call — what we learned and where we go
Call Date: March 20, 2026 (100 min) Attendees: Benjamin Ellis, Brandon Smith, Skip Blankley, Jonathan Gatlit
Key pivot: M&J is migrating from Google to Microsoft. The Gemini enablement pitch is dead. Three new opportunities surfaced: AI training (CPE), survey data analysis, and long-term agentic architecture — all platform-agnostic.

What Changed on the Call

Google → Microsoft migration confirmed. Ellis: "The worst kept secret at M&J... we are entertaining moving from Google G Suite to Microsoft... massive platform ecosystem shift." This isn't hypothetical — it's "just a matter of time and figuring out the how."
Dead
Gemini-Specific Pitch
Alive
Model-Agnostic Training
~400
Untouched Survey Responses
May+
Earliest Engagement
Hiring
Dir. of Data, AI & Integrations

What We Pitched vs. What Landed

TopicReceptionNext Step
Google Gemini EnablementInvalidated — migrating to MicrosoftPivot to model-agnostic
AI Training / CPEStrong interest from both Brandon and EllisSend VOD access, draft survey
Data Retrieval / Agentic LayerIntellectually interesting, but "not ready"Park for 6-12 months
RFP/Proposal AutomationEllis: "we've been having those conversations" but blocked on processKeep warm, don't push
Survey Data AnalysisEmerged organically — "send you this data"Await data share, then analyze

Benjamin Ellis — What We Learned

Decision Style

Methodical. Won't commit without context. "I don't know the groups well enough to say which would be a good pilot." Prefers data-driven recommendations over intuition.

Technical Depth

Real CIO, not a figurehead. Asked about Microsoft Graph comparison, SQL vs. unstructured data access, data governance/permissions, vendor lock-in trade-offs. Needs architecture-level answers.

Posture

"I always want to be incredibly transparent with our vendors." Genuinely open. Doesn't posture or BS. Will tell you when he's not ready. Respects time.

Constraints

7 weeks in. Still wrapping his hands around priorities. Tax season blocks firm until April 15+. Google→Microsoft migration creates moving target. Multiple competing internal initiatives.

Key insight: Ellis is hiring a Director of Data, AI & Integrations. This person will become a primary technical stakeholder in 1-3 months. Our relationship with Ellis and Brandon positions us as a known quantity when this person arrives.

Prioritized Engagement Paths

Engagement Timeline & Dependencies

      
Now — Pre-May (Light Touch)

1. Send Training VOD + Draft Survey

  • Skip sends coupon code for existing AI course to Brandon + Benjamin
  • Draft 5-6 question survey for post-tax-season deployment
  • Await Brandon/Benjamin's internal review of existing survey data
Goal: Stay warm without creating burden during busy season
H2 2026 — Post Microsoft Migration Progress

3. RFP/Proposal Automation + Targeted Agent Builds

  • Processes standardized across merged firms
  • Director of Data, AI & Integrations hired and onboarded
  • Microsoft platform settled enough for stable architecture
  • Brandon's "Teams chat agent" vision becomes buildable
Goal: Scoped technical engagement — RFP tool or practice-group agent
2027+ — Platform Maturity

4. Enterprise Data / Agentic Layer

  • Microsoft Graph fully deployed, permissions mapped
  • Internal data governance framework established
  • Cross-practice-group use cases proven from Phase 3
Goal: Enterprise architecture engagement — unified retrieval across Microsoft ecosystem

In Their Own Words

"The worst kept secret technologically at M&J... we are entertaining moving from our Google G Suite to Microsoft... massive platform ecosystem shift." — Benjamin Ellis, CIO
"The only thing clear to me is we need to train our people on how to think about AI. Beyond that, we have to start building, we have to start transforming. But I don't know what to build." — Brandon Smith, Champion
"I have really good stats of how many FTEs we're wasting on manual processes... but it's like, step one collect underpants, step two, step three profit. What is my step two?" — Brandon Smith
"Every time we do an AI training and give concrete examples of here's a problem and here's how we solve it, we see it in our usage metrics. Our AI usage just jumps way, way up." — Benjamin Ellis
"On the back end and the business end, we're actually not ready for that yet... We need to be kind of... we're not ready, if I can be blunt." — Benjamin Ellis, on RFP/Proposal tool readiness
"I actually have a role posted for a Director of Data, AI, and Integrations." — Benjamin Ellis

Engagement Timeline

M&J Engagement Roadmap

      
Survey Data → Training → Engagement Pipeline

      

Immediate Next Steps

ActionOwnerTimelineStatus
Send AI course VOD access (coupon code) to Brandon + BenjaminSkipThis weekPending
Draft 5-6 question enablement surveySkip + JonathanBefore April 15Pending
Review existing survey data internallyBrandon + BenjaminWhen availableAwaiting
Research Microsoft Teams agent patternsJonathanBefore next callPending
Research CPE documentation requirementsJonathanBefore next callPending
Schedule reconnection callBrandon (coordinate)Late April / early MayTBD
Do NOT do: Push for engagement during tax season (through April 15). Push Gemini-specific anything. Push enterprise data/agentic layer. Push RFP tool. Let them come to us on timing.

Political Map & Stakeholders

M&J Internal Stakeholder Map

      

Technology Environment (Confirmed)

ComponentCurrentFuture
CollaborationGoogle WorkspaceMicrosoft 365
EmailGmailOutlook
Chat / VideoGoogle MeetMicrosoft Teams
LLMGemini EnterpriseCopilot (assumed)
IntranetGoogle PagesSharePoint
Data WarehouseDomo + SnowflakeDomo + Snowflake (retained)
Conference Rooms"Owl" devicesFull Teams AV (1+ year)